What about the Pro Internal DAC?

[Jim Shaw]

I am probably going to buy a WiiM Pro, the value being fair. (I am already using two Minis).
I am interested in what data you might have on the new Pro's DAC. The only description I can find is that WiiM says it is 'audiophile quality." Typically, that doesn't say much because there's no rigorous definition of it.
I would prefer to use a new Pro without an outboard DAC, but to get actual 24/192k high res dynamic range music out of it to my amp.

What more can be said of the DAC inside the Pro?

 

[Brantome]

It’s exactly the same DAC as the Mini, as confirmed by WiiM

Post in thread 'WiiM Pro Preview'
https://wiim.community.forum/threads/wiim-pro-preview.9/post-41

Is this a dedicated stand alone streamer or does it have a built in DAC?

It has the built in DAC featuring a high-precision, low-jitter TI Burr-Brown PCM5121 DAC with support of up to 384 kHz/32-bit audio with 106 dB SNR. It can support up to 24 bit/192 kHz digital audio output with gapless playback and hi-res lossles...

faq-mini.wiimhome.com

 

[Jim Shaw]

It’s exactly the same DAC as the Mini, as confirmed by WiiM

Post in thread 'WiiM Pro Preview'
https://wiim.community.forum/threads/wiim-pro-preview.9/post-41

Is this a dedicated stand alone streamer or does it have a built in DAC?

It has the built in DAC featuring a high-precision, low-jitter TI Burr-Brown PCM5121 DAC with support of up to 384 kHz/32-bit audio with 106 dB SNR. It can support up to 24 bit/192 kHz digital audio output with gapless playback and hi-res lossles...

faq-mini.wiimhome.com

It has the built in DAC featuring a high-precision, low-jitter TI Burr-Brown PCM5121 DAC with support of up to 384 kHz/32-bit audio with 106 dB SNR. It can support up to 24 bit/192 kHz digital audio output with gapless playback and hi-res lossless audio that most smartphone can't output directly.

I was under the (mis?)understanding that the Pro had an upgraded DAC. I guess I'm a bit disappointed because I definitely hear an improvement using a separate DAC (Modi3) from the Mini analog output.
Ah well, Amir's review showed the Mini DAC to be pretty good, and I'm happy to have 24/96k to good analog. I just want to eliminate an outboard DAC from the chain if I'm able. Too many stoves spoil the stew...

I have convinced myself (true or not) that I hear not just a difference but an improvement between 16-bit and 24-bit.

 

[Pcryan5]

Do you place your Modi3 as Wi-Fi->WiiM->Modi3->speakers?
I have Devialet, which accepts 3.5 or optical input and am looking for the best way to stick a better-quality DAC into the mix.
thanks very much for any thoughts? (Beside laughter)
~Peter

 

[Jim Shaw]

Do you place your Modi3 as Wi-Fi->WiiM->Modi3->speakers?
I have Devialet, which accepts 3.5 or optical input and am looking for the best way to stick a better-quality DAC into the mix.
thanks very much for any thoughts? (Beside laughter)
~Peter

I do. Wifi > WiiM > optical > Modi3 > RCA analog > Emotiva preamp > RCA analog > Emotiva A300 > Elac DBR62 + 2 powered subwoofers driven from the preamp.
This setup seems stable and has been in use since several months ago.

Is that clear?

 

[Pcryan5]

I do. Wifi > WiiM > optical > Modi3 > RCA analog > Emotiva preamp > RCA analog > Emotiva A300 > Elac DBR62 + 2 powered subwoofers driven from the preamp.
This setup seems stable and has been in use since several months ago.

Is that clear?

Excellent and my thanks for taking the time - appreciated.
~P