DryTortuga
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The filters are there for you to play with. I will forever do the “Maggie dance” where I constantly try moving my speakers 1/2” directions.
EQ, audiophiles look away now!
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In this case, I think Wiim Pro maybe just downsampling MQA files. Thanks for the tip, I will find some native 192 files on Tidal or Amazon to see if EQ downsamples them.
I have a digital PEQ on miniDSP and it works fine. WiiM's issue is the forced limiter in the EQ mode.
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Been there danced that song many times !
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I’ve just bought one. Sub €200 with shipping to UK. Watched some reviews took onboard what you said. It can fit snuggly in between the Dac to Amp and I can tinker to my heart is content and turn the WiiM back to but perfect streamer only. Win win
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Bit perfect
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Let us know how you get on? All feedback is great, we don’t have to be experts to get valuable info!
DryTortuga
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Tweak those dials, man. You have seen “Risky Business”, right?
DryTortuga
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But you can’t tweak the dials, man
I go all Dirac on my theater (or is it theatre) room. But I gotta have an analog system in the bar, cause I gotta. Of course with digital bits transferred from some AWS server in a bunker somewhere.Yup, I just tested Amazon HD in 192, with EQ on, Wiim Pro keeps it at 192.
But with MQA from Tidal, EQ drops it from 192 to 96 (in renderer only mode) and 48 (in decoder and renderer mode).
Another strike against MQA as Amazon gains the quality edge (with EQ on).
Mr Ee
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Seems kinda obvious to me...
The mqa file is 'folded', so if you want to apply eq in the wiim, before it's been fully unfolded, then you're going to get whatever the wiim unfolds it to based on the downstream mqa capabilities settings.
I am glad it's obvious to you, but your post doesn't explain what I observed, ie. EQ drops MQA files from 192 to 96 (in renderer-only mode) but further to 48 (in decoder and renderer mode). Why is there a different drop between these two modes?
Anyone else knows?
Mr Ee
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Renderer only => wiim does decode unfold => 96khz
Decoder and renderer => wiim expects downstream to do both => no unfold in wiim => 48khz
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You might be be pleasantly surprised I was, I could live with it.
Well, I still have bass/treble dials on my amp. And I never use them, cause I don't want to.But you can’t tweak the dials, man
Interesting, Wiim Pro's "MQA Core Decoder" either randomly upsamples some MQA tracks to 88/96 or reporting the rates incorrectly, despite that a full external MQA decoder and renderer keeps them at 44.1/48 kHz.
And if you skip forward the song and back again, the sample rate will change, so confusing, LOL...
@WiiM Support is MQA still in beta?
Mr Ee
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This is with EQ enabled, right?
So an external decoder/renderer isn't getting a 'proper' mqa stream, so won't unfold.
As for the changing rates if simply skipping back to a track... can't explain that!
Mqa required bit perfect to work so using eq would not work. It has to be fixed volume and set 192khz/24.
No, this is with EQ disabled and Fixed Volume is set. That's why I am so puzzled.
I submitted a bug report to @WiiM Support already. Hopefully it's a just beta issue that they will sort out.
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Are you using the wiim app with tidal? I found if I use the wiim app first I don’t get higher bitrate than 16 bit 44.1 KHz. If I open tidal connect and start song and then open the WiiM app I get the higher 24 bit 88 or 96 KHz.
No biggie since normally start listen to the daily discovery in Tidal. Tend to use the WiiM app just to setup the WiiM.
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