CrystalGipsy
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Already didplease ask in the Roon forum
Already didplease ask in the Roon forum
Any Roon Ready device is supposed to declare its signal path to the DAC. So if your using inbuilt DSP options it shows up after RAAT stage. Hegel, Bluesound, Cambridge Audio, Eversolo to name a few. This is one of Roons SP that it shows your the processing chain.For which audio device Roon shows the processing performed directly on this device?
Can you show me such an example? For processing outside the Roon subsystem but shown in the Roon audio path?Any Roon Ready device is supposed to declare its signal path to the DAC. So if your using inbuilt DSP options it shows up after RAAT stage. Hegel, Bluesound, Cambridge Audio, Eversolo to name a few. This is one of Roons SP that it shows your the processing chain.
DoneRaise a ticket to WiiM and see what they
Here is my FiiO M11 Plus Dap which is Roon Ready I enabled the all to DSD feature on the device which upsamples all input to DSD. You can see it as a process after RAAT which indicates it’s a device process and not via Roon. All Roon Ready devices I have had all declare any additional steps that are done on the device itself if they are in the signal path to the DAC.Can you show me such an example? For processing outside the Roon subsystem but shown in the Roon audio path?
To be honest I can read opposite statements hereAny Roon Ready device is supposed to declare its signal path to the DAC. So if your using inbuilt DSP options it shows up after RAAT stage. Hegel, Bluesound, Cambridge Audio, Eversolo to name a few. This is one of Roons SP that it shows your the processing chain.
Agreed, unless it’s up to oems to decide on what they declare which then makes a mockery of this if they don’t.You would have expected Roon to have picket this up though in the certification process? Seems such an obvious thing for them to check...
To be honest I can read opposite statements here
"Lossless signal paths are indicated by a bright purple light, and mean exactly what the name implies: that the stream is going from the file to the device without being modified."
"Enhanced signal paths are indicated by a bright blue light. This means that Roon is performing some signal processing steps on the audio because you asked for them."
The same for the volume level on the device or EQ being enabled?Here is my FiiO M11 Plus Dap which is Roon Ready I enabled the all to DSD feature on the device which upsamples all input to DSD. You can see it as a process after RAAT which indicates it’s a device process and not via Roon. All Roon Ready devices I have had all declare any additional steps that are done on the device itself if they are in the signal path to the DAC.
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But you can see that it's not a mandatory thing based on the link I provided? It's not even a supposed behavior.Wrong it also will show steps on devices as I have said and shown. All Bluesound show any bass treble adjustments, adjusting the digital volume or other DSP if it’s active. Cambridge Audio show that the CXNv2 upsamples always to 384/24. Eversolo again shows any DSP applied on the device.!
Volume no as it’s a DAP and your controlling the hardware analogue volume of the head amp it doesn’t have any other eq to apply but if it did it would show up.The same for the volume level on the device or EQ being enabled?
Or it would not, as looks like it's up to the device maker if such kind of the feedback to the Roon is provided.but if it did it would show up
I read it a little differently and I have had a number of Roon Ready devices and all have declared stuff like this.But you can see that it's not a mandatory thing based on the link I provided? It's not even a supposed behaviour.
Perhaps after setting the WiiM to Roon Ready and use it with Roon, the DSP, PEQ and other settings do not work and are default?I read it a little differently and I have had a number of Roon Ready devices and all have declared stuff like this.
It's the same with the Pro, there is a limited feedback like the output used, but nothing about any internal processing.How does the WiiM Pro behave? I’d be really surprised if nothing has been said about its behaviour in the past six months it’s been certified if it’s doing the same.
This link suggests that it should show what changes the WiiM device makes to the signal path:
”It tells you what your source material is, your output, and every detail in between. Whether it be bit depth or sample rate conversions, parametric EQ, other DSP options, or processing inside of your Roon Ready device, Signal Path lets you know.”
What's Really Going on in Your Audio Stream?
Software, hardware, and operating systems silently modify your audio without providing any feedback all too often. Roon changes that with Signal Path.blog.roonlabs.com
They work as usually.Perhaps after setting the WiiM to Roon Ready and use it with Roon, the DSP, PEQ and other settings do not work and are default?
On Digital and Analog outputs?They work as usually.